Cadillac versus Chrysler, I knew it was only a matter of time. So the question is overall, what do you think is better, as far as price, performance, looks, and overall a better vehicle.
300C SRT-8
6.1L V8
5sp Auto
425@hp@6200
420ftlbs@4800
14/19 mpg
4160lbs
$39,370

CTS-V
5.7L V8
6sp Manual
400hp@6000
395ftlbs@4800
16/25 Mpg
3850 lbs
$49,490


I know it’s a tough one especially since the SRT-8 is not even out yet, But it does have very high expectations. I personally can not wait to see what the SRT-8 can do. The CTS-V has a very nice fit and finish, where as a normal 300C felt a bit sub par as far as quality goes in my opinion. The price I believe is the biggest deciding factor, for those who own a CTS-V would you have waited for the SRT-8 and spent about $10,000 dollars less? I have heard from insiders that the SRT-8 will run 12’s stock! That is very impressive, well please tell me what you think.

Cadillac versus Chrysler, I knew it was only a matter of time. So the question is overall, what do you think is better, as far as price, performance, looks, and overall a better vehicle.
300C SRT-8
6.1L V8
5sp Auto
425@hp@6200
420ftlbs@4800
14/19 mpg
4160lbs
$39,370

CTS-V
5.7L V8
6sp Manual
400hp@6000
395ftlbs@4800
16/25 Mpg
3850 lbs
$49,490


I know it’s a tough one especially since the SRT-8 is not even out yet, But it does have very high expectations. I personally can not wait to see what the SRT-8 can do. The CTS-V has a very nice fit and finish, where as a normal 300C felt a bit sub par as far as quality goes in my opinion. The price I believe is the biggest deciding factor, for those who own a CTS-V would you have waited for the SRT-8 and spent about $10,000 dollars less? I have heard from insiders that the SRT-8 will run 12’s stock! That is very impressive, well please tell me what you think.

I wouldnt expect that, the 05 GTO is rumored to do that, with 25 less HP but it only weighs 3790 LBS, so even with 25more HP I dont thinkt he SRT can hit 12s with its MASSIVE weight.

Even then one is a chrysler and the other a Cadillac...Caddi is more the BMW type, where Chrysler is more of a Buick. There may be some cross shopping but the CTSV is a far better car for the money.

There are stock 300c's running 13.8 13.9, you dont think that a car that has 85 more hp can run high 12's. It will be close. I dont see the comparison between Chrysler and Buick, Chrysler has one of the most exciting vehicle line ups in todays market. A luxury car with 425hp for 40 grand not that bad a deal.

I have to agree as well. I will be highly disappointed if the SRT-8 does not run 12.9's from the factory under good conditions. I think it is in direct competition with the CTS-V.

The luxury sports sedan wars are on.

I just dont see the SRT hitting 12s. Not with its massive weight. The GTO is estimated to do a 13.0, probably 12s with a good driver, but add on 3-400 more LBS and only 25 more Hp and I don't see it happening. IMO DCX should have worked on getting the weight down instead of just dropping in a huge engine.

If you truely think you can compare a chrysler product to that of a GM or Caddi than I am not going to even try to explain the difference to you! Keep us posted as to how many trans you have replaced and the lack of percision in the interior details.

Nocturn: You forget that Chrysler's SRT division has been underestimating the power from the factory for some time. The SRT-4 was rated at 225hp and was putting that down _at the wheels_ bone stock from the factory.

Also, auto's are better for drag racing... a 5 speed automatic can be very consistent and makes launching much easier.

mjcnj: I'm not too worried about the transmission in the SRT-8 being able to hold up... after all, its the same 5 speed automatic that they put in the E55 AMG -- I dont see people going through those left and right. Same rear diff as well. This car is built on, essentially, the old Mercedes E-Class platform.

As far as precision and interior details, that remains to be seen in the long run. However, my CTS-V only has 900 miles on it, and its already been in for warranty work for a "creak" -- the hood latch was found to be faulty, and I am waiting on a replacement unit. So, manufacturing errors are not beyond even Cadillac.

Edit: The magazines that I've read show 13.1 for the CTS-V and 13.2 for the SRT-8 -- It is not beyond reasoning that someone at a track that hooks with good weather conditions could get the car to run into the 12's.. your talking about 2 tenths. Thats pretty easy to come by when there are factory freak cars running around.

Chrysler has always had the best design studio in the auto business. And the 300 is a great looking car / deal. However, I am a GM guy (for better or worse) and am very happy with my V. As an old Corvetter, I have tweaked the LS6, so my hp/trq figures are at the 427 number, with very little effort. :)

I'm not really even going to try to guess which one is "superior" if that determination can ever be made. However, once the car is released at least we'll have a few performance figures we can compare.

Either way, I think the CTS-V and the SRT-8 are awesome vehicles, and if I can swing things, I plan to own one of each :)

I love manual transmissions, and so it'd be CTS-V hands down.

I love manual transmissions, and so it'd be CTS-V hands down.

Thank- you, I was waiting for a response like that.

Manual transmissions, things an automatic just can't do. Once I found out the M5 was going to be sequential only.

All eyes were on the 6speed CTS-V.

Great discussion.. Well I am inches from purchasing my own CTS V my only concern is piston slap, oil burn, or ring problems. I owned a 2001 SS camaro, and a 2001 corvette. Both had ring problems, knocking on startup for about 15-20 secs and burnt oil. Maybe you guys can give me some insight.
Maybe the SRT-8 :)

Great discussion.. Well I am inches from purchasing my own CTS V my only concern is piston slap, oil burn, or ring problems. I owned a 2001 SS camaro, and a 2001 corvette. Both had ring problems, knocking on startup for about 15-20 secs and burnt oil. Maybe you guys can give me some insight.
Maybe the SRT-8 :)

I havent heard of any issues like this with the V, so I wouldnt worry about the items you mention.

Chrysler has always had the best design studio in the auto business. And the 300 is a great looking car / deal. However, I am a GM guy (for better or worse) and am very happy with my V. As an old Corvetter, I have tweaked the LS6, so my hp/trq figures are at the 427 number, with very little effort. :)


Ok, time to tell your secrets...

Interesting discussion. IMHO Ill be getting the 12/18psi superchargers for my C's. Then there will be no more questions about who is faster, yes even for the new 500hpCTSV...not a prayer to keep up with me. Only who payed more for their car.

Interesting discussion. IMHO Ill be getting the 12/18psi superchargers for my C's. Then there will be no more questions about who is faster, yes even for the new 500hpCTSV...not a prayer to keep up with me. Only who payed more for their car.

Well, Magnuson does make a supercharger kit for the V as well :) So, we are back to apples vs apples again :)

Here's the thing. Saying that cars are in the "same class" based on their 0-60 and 1/4 mile times is ridiculous. If that's the case, I have a Go-kart that competes with a Ferrari...

Based on the logic of Apples vs. Apples, the Dodge really doesn't run with a CTS-V at all. It's your basic "big mama cruiser", and cool though it may be, it's a blatent knock off of a Rolls Royce, and it doesn't begin to compete there.

The CTS-V runs with the likes of M5s and 55 Series AMG Mercedes. You're talking about a car that is setting design trends, and has remarkable handling capabilites - far beyond that of the love-boat Dodge. Striaght line performance is 1 of dozens of performance metrics that should be taken into consideration if you're to do an adequate evaluation. The CTS-V beat the Mercedes and the BMW in 11 of 12 perfromance metrics in a recent Car & Driver shoot out. They only lost in braking, which is easily remedied with an afternoon and about $500...

Now, anybody know where I can find a good Cold-air intake kit for my V, and what exhaust yields the best results with the best sound?

Goatman...

Goatman,

Sorry, but I disagree. I can see the merits of both vehicles and they both have their pro's and con's... also, we arent the only ones that say these cars are in the same class (especially the SRT-8 and the CTS-V -- if you wanna compare apples to apples, thats what you need to compare -- otherwise, compare the 300C vs the regular CTS)

The magazines agree, these cars are in direct competition with each other, wether you want to admit it or not.

Just my 2c.

Well, Magnuson does make a supercharger kit for the V as well :) So, we are back to apples vs apples again :)

Indeed we are...

The chysler is to big. and whenever i see it i just feel like its a bently knock off. Me personally my friend has the 300c hemi. And its quick. but it rides and feels cheap. just feels cheaply made. maybe its just me though

The chysler is to big. and whenever i see it i just feel like its a bently knock off. Me personally my friend has the 300c hemi. And its quick. but it rides and feels cheap. just feels cheaply made. maybe its just me though


I would love to sit/ride/drive in a 300c. I've only seen a couple around and they have all been modified to look like the Bently. I think the look and status sybol of the sport luxury sedan is important but if it doesn't drive and hold up to the image it puts out then what was the point? The car should have great handling and drivability to go along with its stunning looks and high output motor.

Here's the thing. Saying that cars are in the "same class" based on their 0-60 and 1/4 mile times is ridiculous. If that's the case, I have a Go-kart that competes with a Ferrari...

i dont know, why do people compare porsches to a mere chevy (Vette that is) or vipers to ferrari's? They may not be in the same class, but if they hit the numbers about the same time they WILL be compared no matter what. So comparing JUST these 2 cars (not the brands) isnt that ridiculous. The Cadi may outhandle the Chrysler (not Dodge) and more fine tuned, but the SRT is a whole ALOT of car for the price. calling it a bentley wannabe is moot point, the fact is that these are 2 fine American cars that pack alot of similar power. Ive already seen two mags compare the two.

What i really want to know is where to get one of those Go-karts that can compete with a Ferrari...Now THAT would be FUN!

My mother has a 300C Hemi, with the AWD system. I tend to agree on the way that it feels, just, not as "sporty" as it should. Being it was her car, my father and I couldn't get her to look at the SRT-8 (although that would have been pretty cool) but the 300C alone, feels as big as it is, in stock form. I have no clue about modifying the suspension and such, but the thing just feels like a boat to me. I don't drive that small of a car, but mine has a puropse tunes suspension, and body roll that I experience in the C is amplified tons more than in my Saturn. I've been in the SRT-8 version, and beieve that it would cure all my compaints about the C (including the seats) but if only htere were a way to cure my complaint about my mother not being performance oriented :mad: :D.

The 300c Srt-8 Are Selling For Over 10,000 Over Invoice On The Car Way To Much Plus The 300c Depreciated In Value So Bad Its Not Even Funny Cadillac All The Way For Get Chrysler They Say The Cars So Good Because Diamler Chrysler Is Mercedes Benz So What Over Priced Cts-v 0 To 60 In 4.9 Quarter In 13.1 Staock And Theres So Many Upgrades Available I Have A Regular Cts And Im Trading It In For An 06 V Give Me A Month And Ill Write Again Tell You How It Is (dubbed Cts)

acutally i hate to admit this but my dream car is either the 300c hemi or the srt-8. For some reason i LOVE the look of the 300. Don't get me wrong i love my cts, but the "baby bentley" is such a great car. it did win car of the year 2 years in a row. gotta give credit where credit is due

stock 300s run in the 14's........